"Healing”, in recent years, has become a frequently employed buzzword in various societal contexts. Also hijacked by the international Contemporary Art world, this conversation between Nathalie Anguezomo Mba Bikoro, Elsa M’Bala and Magnus Elias Rosengarten questions the challenges this can pose to artists who earnestly dedicate their practice to the fields of care and healing. The talk stresses structural and discriminatory barriers Black female-identified artists repetitively face working in Europe and Germany. Nathalie Anguezomo Mba Bikoro and Elsa M’Bala identify the detrimental effects whiteness can have on artists who do not practice within the perimeters of the Western canon. Yet, by sharing decisive moments and turning points in their careers, both point to the individual paths they continue to chart for themselves and the resulting successes, despite vehement resistance.